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Post by mixedupref on Oct 18, 2012 19:09:29 GMT 10
I was interested to hear of Danny Rose of England being shown a (second) yellow card after the full-time whistle of the England v Serbia U21 match for "kicking the ball into the stands." Wondering what the collective opinion is on whether a caution is warranted in this situation?? I did see, in Newcastle a few years ago, John Hutchinson of the Central Coast Mariners (who is far from popular up that way!!) kick the ball into the Newcastle supporters' bay, after full-time. He was then body-checked heavily by a Jets player and a melee formed. (Fair to say though, over the years Hutchinson has had that many coins thrown at him by the Novocastrians that he could almost retire!!) Neither Hutchinson or the Jets' player were sanctioned at all - from memory the only sanction was a Mariner sent for abusive language. Yeah, I'm seeing some difference in interpretation here! Either way racism is a blight on the beautiful game... The Daily Telegraph: www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/football/serbia-and-england-investigated-over-racism-and-brawls-in-under-21-match/story-fndb5nmd-1226498221466
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Post by rhythmlynx on Oct 19, 2012 11:49:32 GMT 10
Yes mixedupref; racism, provocation and violence are all serious blights of the world game of football and governing bodies such as UEFA, FIFA etc do need to take a much tougher stance and heavily penalise offenders, national FA's (especially for repeat offences) and crowd individuals that incite violence, in particular persons that are seen throwing objects of any type that intend to harm players, referees and/or team officials. There seems to be conflicting reports and vision as to whether Danny Rose received a red card directly after his action of kicking the ball into the crowded stand or whether he was shown a second yellow card followed by a red card. We will need to wait and see what is the official outcome when the November 22nd hearing by UEFA's Control & Disciplinary Board concludes. There can be many interpretations and reasons for any player to kick a ball into the crowd at the conclusion of a game and consequently, many factors have to be determined by the referee to assess whether the player's action was due to jubilation, spontaneous reaction to "give it" to the crowd (in a similar sense of a middle finger gesture) especially if that player is part of the visiting team, frustration (similar to missing a goal at close range and swearing aloud), kicking the ball to the home crowd as a souvenir and token of thanks for their attendance and there are many other examples that could occur. Each of these examples would present a different outcome as to whether that player is sanctioned or not. I'll be very interested to see the final result by the UEFA Board hearing.
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Post by JD on Oct 24, 2012 7:57:19 GMT 10
It does sound like a caution was suitable for, hmm... let me find something in the law book that it was for rather than "kicking the ball into the stands"
I think..."shows a lack respect for the game" is a cautionable offence and the act could have fit within this.
As ryhtmlynx says, a whole lot of different circumstances could lead to different outcomes for this though.
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