maxgp
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Post by maxgp on Mar 17, 2012 7:53:10 GMT 10
When a player tackles from behind and first makes contact with the ball than brings the player down , what would your call be. Firm tackle not aggressive.
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Post by Eca on Mar 17, 2012 17:20:33 GMT 10
contact with the ball, that's good, then, brings the player down, that's bad - free kick.
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stevo
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Post by stevo on Mar 25, 2012 17:53:51 GMT 10
careless, dfk
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Post by fatdev33l on May 30, 2012 13:45:49 GMT 10
The direct free kick I agree with. However you need to take into account the speed of the player coming in making the tackle, the distance he slides if it is a slide tackle and finally what were his chances of getting the ball in a legal manner. If speed is quick and/or the player slides from a distance of 1+ meters and/or the player had extremely low chance of legally dispossessing his opponent the player has most likely committed a reckless challenge. Given the information at hand it is likely you are correct, however disregard for an opponents safety is a reckless offence, so this tackle may still warrant a yellow card. Additionally especially on Premier League tackles that break up an attack need to be punished more than I have witnessed in the past few weeks.
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Post by 1 on May 30, 2012 15:39:17 GMT 10
Is the "from behind" part of it necessity for a DFK. Could it be from the side or front and still a careless, reckless or excessive force tackle?
I guess that is more of a statement rather than a question. Too much emphasis is put on "from behind". I agree that it is a factor when it is from behind as the opponent does not see it coming and has less chance of avoiding a collision however it is not a one size fits all situation. If contact is made (or attempted) then ultimately the question you need to ask yourself is "was it careless, reckless or with excessive force?"
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Post by fatdev33l on May 31, 2012 18:37:50 GMT 10
I agree that it is a factor when it is from behind as the opponent does not see it coming and has less chance of avoiding a collision however it is not a one size fits all situation. If contact is made (or attempted) then ultimately the question you need to ask yourself is "was it careless, reckless or with excessive force?" This is the point I attempted to make. The fact they have little chance of getting the ball in a fair manner is often how we as referees deem a tackle to be of a reckless nature or with excessive force. A great example I have is last year in a premier league reserve grade game, the field was wet and a player sprinted in, double footed and slid around 4-5 meters before making contact with the opponent. By the time the tackler made contact with the player behind it was clear that he had no chance of fairly dispossessing his opponent as well as showing no regard for his opponents safety. Therefore I sent him off as he attempted to use excessive force to challenge his opponent and certainly did not care if he injured the player. This year however in round 1 a player was tackled from behind as a player stuck his leg out and his attacker at the last minute beat him to the ball forcing the contact on the attackers ankle. This left players calling for a yellow however it was not reckless and merely careless as at the time of the challenge he had a fair chance of getting the ball. The integral part we must decide is by the players actions, have they attempted to injure the opponent or shown no concern for his opponents safety or was it just an accidental foul.
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Post by JD on May 31, 2012 23:26:53 GMT 10
"slid around 4-5 meters"
fatdev33l, if it is the slide I remember, it seemed like it was closer to 8-10 metres, and the player started their run near the 18 yard box and ended up near half way. As for the ball, well yes, it was somewhere on the field of play I think.
Based on the original question, I would be thinking a DFK but maybe not depending on how good the tackle was. From behind, sounds like a free kick.
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