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Post by oldfart on Feb 21, 2011 20:14:31 GMT 10
Can someone explain the memo from national referee instructor Gary Power (reproduced below) I cannot make sense of it! Do we have to drop the flag when we use both hands?
"The National Policy for Assistant Referees is shown in the FFA publication of the Laws of the Game. The instruction that assistant referees should use their left hands to indicate free kicks to the defending team (including offside’s and goal kicks) and right hands for the attacks is no longer an option. It is part of the National Policy Statement and is applicable at all levels of football in this country. The use of both hands is a more effective method of communication and immediately conveys the direction that play should take and allows the referee to quickly determine whether advantage can be applied or not."
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Post by Johnny on Feb 22, 2011 11:15:48 GMT 10
The last sentence is a bit of a mystery but initially he seems to be saying that left handed flag signal for off-side and goal kicks is wrong.
EPL and all other top leagues flag offside with the right hand but I have noticed that most A league ARs still use the left.
This was discussed at a FNSW meeting that I attended last year. It was agreed that the photos in the 2010 Australian Laws of the game showing left handed off-side flagging were wrong and that ARs would be instructed to use the right hand to flag off-side, in line with FIFA guidelines. This instruction has either not been given or has been ignored by the majority of A League ARs!
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Post by Direstraits Referee on Feb 22, 2011 16:03:51 GMT 10
The instruction is clear, although I disagree with it going against FIFA instructions. However, we have to do as FFA have instructed and indicate, as used to be the case, left hand for defence and right hand for attack!
So offsides and goal kicks must now be indicated with the flag in the left hand. This has been a directive of FFA for some time now and we are now instructed to full into line - i.e. it is no longer an option as Gary Power states!Webmaster - GDSRA
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Post by Johnny on Feb 23, 2011 9:34:43 GMT 10
I have just double checked and you are right Direstraits.
The FIFA instruction is right hand but FFA have now overruled that and given the left hand instruction!
When this issue was debated at RAG last year the consensus was to go with FIFA. I have now checked with FNSW and they confirm that we should follow FFA on this and ignore FIFA.
Granville referees will now need to follow FFA/FNSW instructions for left handed signals. The situation however is ridiculous and FFA must be informed that (to my knowledge) they are the only country in the world ignoring FIFA guidelines on this!
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Post by nextgenref on Apr 18, 2011 19:29:46 GMT 10
it may be that FFA are the only ones to ignore FIFA but all good change starts with 1 party, i wasnt impressed whn i first recieved this information as the transition is dificult, but it does make more sense, all free kicks to the defending side are signaled with the left hand, it seems only logical that offsides be signaled in the same way, this way any kick that is to be taken by the defending team will be signaled in the left hand and any by the attacking team the right, IMO it is FIFA that needs to look at their decisions not FFA (for this specific case at least)
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Post by TopIrish on May 26, 2011 14:22:46 GMT 10
to make it easier to clarify & understand would this be true for all indications by AR: - left hand flag signal to the defending team - right hand flag signal to the attacking team if so I'm visualizing this and asking "what difference does it make for AR to use left or right when the center ref indicates most of the directions anyway"
IMO i prefer right as I'm right handed. So i use only right hand, if so than what happens?
Just curious.
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Post by rhythmlynx on May 31, 2011 10:57:18 GMT 10
TopIrish; My curiosity is what hand do you hold the flag in most of the time when running the line as an assistant referee? Flag should always be in clear view of the centre referee so my observations reveal that whether you are right handed or left handed the flag should generally be in your left hand when running up and down the touch-line. I personally favour the FFA edict.
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Post by TopIrish on Jun 3, 2011 15:33:35 GMT 10
rhythmlynx, i'm more comfortable and balanced with the flag on my right hand and most of my runnings i prefer sideway movement, left to right rather than up and down.
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Post by rhythmlynx on Jun 4, 2011 23:57:54 GMT 10
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Post by rhythmlynx on Jun 4, 2011 23:59:29 GMT 10
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Post by rhythmlynx on Jun 5, 2011 0:23:17 GMT 10
The imaginary Law 18 does not relate to this topic of discussion. I was merely emphasising that when an a/r needs to run flat out to keep in line with the ball for example, then the flag should be in the left hand, in full view of the centre referee. Crab-like movements are fine when watching for offsides and the defenders are moving about at a slow to steady pace so it is more convenient to hold flag in left hand when offsides do occur. Of course when a foul occurs in favour of the attacking team then the flag is raised in the right hand. The odds are that the referee usually blows his whistle first (before the a/r signals) if the free kick goes to the attacking team. So logically speaking, it would seem the a/r should generally favour the flag held in the left hand.
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