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Post by rhythmlynx on Dec 24, 2008 16:55:29 GMT 10
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Post by Kempy on Dec 25, 2008 21:20:48 GMT 10
A player sent from the field is automatically suspended until his case is determined by the GDSFA Judiciary sub-committee. In determining a suspension, the Judiciary is empowered to take into account any games the player may have missed (ie schedule State Cup, catch-up games, etc for THEIR team) - this excludes games they could have been 'borrowed' for.
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Post by rhythmlynx on Dec 27, 2008 17:53:59 GMT 10
It seems that the said by-laws are not elaborated or defined more clearly because an offending player (dismissed in one game), should not even be considered as a "borrowed" player i.e. to be allowed to play in any other "higher" division for the same club due to possible player shortage in the other team. Tension will mount between offender and referee if it's the same referee officiating that very next game on the same day.
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Post by rhythmlynx on Jun 22, 2009 10:36:39 GMT 10
It's pleasing to see that the GDSFA By-Laws now allow for the referee to collect a sent off player's ID card and submit it, together with the referee's report, to the Chairman of the Judicial Committee in terms of by-laws, Part 3, Clause 12 (g). This should prevent a sent-off player from playing in the next game, on the same day, as an upgraded player for his/her Football Club. By-Laws can be perused by clicking onto this website; www.granvillesoccer.com.au/files/Bylaws/2008/GDSFA%20By-Laws%20(2008)%20v10_1.pdf
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Post by evo5 on Jun 22, 2009 11:08:01 GMT 10
It seems we are reading two different things.
g) If a player is sent from the field by the referee, the referee will record the offence on the team sheet and his/her ID card shall be collected by his/her Club Secretary and delivered to the Association’s office within 2 days. The ID card plus the referee’s report shall be supplied to the Chairman of the Judicial Committee
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Post by rhythmlynx on Jun 22, 2009 11:27:38 GMT 10
I see. So that means that both the Football Club Secretary and the referee need to separately lodge/deliver their relevant items with the Judicial Committee Chairmain within 2 days of the player's offence? The onus is therefore on the Club Secretary to make sure that the offending player does not play another game that day? Interesting ! Still a loophole, it seems.
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Post by fairplay on Jun 23, 2009 12:27:23 GMT 10
As far as know all players need to bring their cards with them to the judiciary. That means they should have their cards with them. The process has changed since 2008 after single copy team sheets were introduced and what happens with ID cards in a send off incident doesn't seem to be clear. Its and area that needs to be looked at I reckon.
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Post by rhythmlynx on Dec 27, 2010 13:06:22 GMT 10
I'm pleased to see that in the Eastern Suburbs District referees are obligated to obtain the player(s) I.D. card(s) should they be dismissed by the match official and enclose the I.D.s when lodging the completed match team sheet. Have there been any further developments in this area with the GDSFA ?
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Post by Smivvy on Feb 14, 2011 5:25:07 GMT 10
gees, i remember the issues we had back when we had the instruction changed.... we didn't collect the cards as the referees were being assaulted and abused when they tried to retrieve the card from the teams after the game.... no matter how confident you are of the send off, the teams,players and coaches will never agree it was a good send off.... why do you want to go back to that s**tfight.....
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Post by rhythmlynx on Feb 15, 2011 11:48:31 GMT 10
Smivvy, try being more positive. If we had our Police Force with the same attitude not to confront their obligations each day, to face up to the esculating assaults, crime and misdemeanors then we would all suffer in society. As referees, we are dealing with players and their managers/coaches so if further incidents occur out of the ordinary, deal with it appropriately as required by the Football & Referees Associations' guidelines.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2011 18:52:45 GMT 10
rythmlynx If our Referees were trained as Police then I would accept that. Guess what, Referees don't carry any protective equipment with them. We will be staying with the current instructions.
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Post by rhythmlynx on Mar 2, 2011 22:44:56 GMT 10
Lyn, players don't carry weapons and are also not supposed to carry any form of jewellery. I understand that some Districts may have a greater volume of more aggressive players with bad attitudes than others so I respect the circumstances where there may be different policies adopted with each Football Association. I was merely asking a simple question whether GDSFA was going to review its policy on send-offs due to the ambiguity of whether a player who got sent off, say in the 1:15pm game and then was named on the team sheet and eligible to play as an upgraded player in the following 3:15pm kick-off on the same ground and day.
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Post by Smivvy on Jun 24, 2011 22:14:36 GMT 10
Smivvy, try being more positive. If we had our Police Force with the same attitude not to confront their obligations each day, to face up to the esculating assaults, crime and misdemeanors then we would all suffer in society. As referees, we are dealing with players and their managers/coaches so if further incidents occur out of the ordinary, deal with it appropriately as required by the Football & Referees Associations' guidelines. thanks for the tip....
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