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Post by Eca on Apr 21, 2011 8:05:44 GMT 10
Team blue kicks ball out of play at the half way line.
Team red takes the throw in, 15m from the half way line back towards his own goal line. All aspects of the throw in are legal, except that he didn't take the throw in at the place where the ball left the field of play.
What does the ref do:
1. Allow play on?
2. Stops play and asks the red team to retake the throw at the half way mark where the ball went out?
3. Stops play and awards the throw in to the blue team at the half way mark where the ball went out?
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Post by Johnny on Apr 21, 2011 10:43:55 GMT 10
3
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Post by Eca on Apr 21, 2011 21:36:44 GMT 10
Hi Johnny,
Not according to the Red team. Some of the team told me it was 1, others told me it was 2.
Others told me they never knew about 3.
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Post by nextgenref on Apr 22, 2011 13:03:05 GMT 10
The referee should have warned red team about the position before hand in order to go straight to 3 (as in "up here please red" before the ball is thrown in) however once the ball has been thrown in its just like lifting up your feet or spinning the ball it is a foul throw if it is not taking from where the ball left FOP and hence will be number 3
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Post by pj on Apr 22, 2011 14:31:41 GMT 10
... or spinning the ball it is a foul throw... IMO, spinning the ball is not a breach of the throw-in proceedure acccording to the LOTG and therefore not a foul throw.
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Post by nextgenref on Apr 22, 2011 17:35:44 GMT 10
my apologies, what i was trying to get at is a throw in not coming over the head but to the side, this is almost always acompanied by the spinning of the ball, hence i refer to it as spinning the ball,
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Post by Johnny on Apr 27, 2011 15:07:37 GMT 10
Eca If a throw is taken from the wrong place it is deemed to be a foul throw so the throw must be awarded to the other team. I always think that this situation should be avoided by a smart ref who will blow the whistle if a player is about to take a throw from the wrong place and tell him the right place. Letting players know the right place to take a throw is more important in local football because the player may have had to go a fair distance to retrieve the ball and how can he remember exactly where it went out unless he gets a bit of help from the ref?
PJ It irritates me slightly when I hear referees and players say that a spinning ball must be a foul throw. The relevant part of the law states that when a player is taking a throw in he must:
'use both hands deliver the ball from behind and over his head'
A spinning ball may or may not be a result of delivering the ball with one hand rather than equally with two. If one hand if favoured rather than two it is a foul throw but in my opinion a spinning ball does not necessarily indicate a foul throw.
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Post by pj on Apr 27, 2011 17:34:38 GMT 10
It irritates me slightly when I hear referees and players say that a spinning ball must be a foul throw. I agree, which is why the post. Not the end of the world but for a new ref, IMHO a throw is only a 'minor' restart not to be too concerned over. There are many more important things to think about. However, there are several things I look for in a throw:- Ball over the head (generally), feet down and around the same place it went out. If those things are met, play on. The ball spin may be a clue but IMHO is not worth sweating over.
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