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Post by oldfart on May 30, 2010 20:54:26 GMT 10
Had an interesting 'last man' incident on the w/end in O35. Forward gets played in via a great through ball. Last defender chasing as fast as he can. Forward gets into the penalty box just has keeper to beat, defender hard on his heels. Defender puts on a perfect slide tackle and clears the ball away. I award IDFK inside the box, and give the defender a yellow for USB. Defender spoke to me after the game, he thought he was gone with a red for DOGSO. I explained that a slide tackle in O35 is always indirect, but I gave him the yellow for intentional. Had a good laugh about it, I agreed with him, he had to go for the slide. It was a 'good' professional foul, if there is such a thing.
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Post by evo5 on May 31, 2010 8:07:27 GMT 10
Interesting...
• the offence which denies an opponent an obvious goal-scoring opportunity may be an offence that incurs a direct free kick or an indirect free kick
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Post by Direstraits Referee on May 31, 2010 10:03:40 GMT 10
Slide tackle IDFK is only a local rule and if the defender, as you say did a perfect slide tackle, then it is not a DOGSO. If he missed and brought the player down then that's different.
Personally, I'd rather that the rule wasn't there for consistency and being in line with FIFA laws. It's part of the game and slide tackles should be allowed. When the GDSFA reprsentatives in 35's and 45's goes to Champion of Champions they play FIFA rules and it's allowable. This puts GDSFA representatives at a disadvantage as they are conditioned not to do it!DS
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Post by JD on Jun 2, 2010 13:32:00 GMT 10
It seems from what evo5 says has found, that this would mean that the correct thing to do is to show the player the red card.
It seems what DS says and what was actually done, this would be the correct intention of the IFK laws within our area though, but not the correct application of the LOTG.
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Post by oldfart on Jun 3, 2010 19:11:09 GMT 10
thanks Evo, I stand corrected. For some reason I thought that DOGSO only applied if a direct free kick was awarded. Law 12 says "...offence punishable by a free kick or penalty kick"
It's only later on in the LOTG 'additional information section' that the clarification is given.
Still since it's a local rule I'm thinking law 18 could be applied here, so I'm reasonably comfortable with the yellow. cheers
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Post by evo5 on Jun 5, 2010 20:35:36 GMT 10
Oldfart, I wouldn't argue with your call in this area.
By the by, many of us believe DOGSO has to be a DFK.
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Post by oddie on Jun 23, 2010 8:39:10 GMT 10
Defender puts on a perfect slide tackle and clears the ball away. I award IDFK inside the box, and give the defender a yellow for USB. Hi All, 3 questions: 1)Was contact made with the ball first and cleared? 2)Did the Attacker go down as a result of the slide tackle? 3)What was the reaction of the attacker? (exaggerate hands in the air palms open, arched back, etc, or connect with deflected ball and fall over) If it was me reffing, taking into account the score, time, speed of play and the attacker and defenders reactions, I'd have called no foul. Then in MWFA, there is no local ruling (that I am aware of) in relation to slide tackles in the 18YB. A quick check on both players and the appropriate restart.
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Post by oldfart on Jun 23, 2010 21:24:11 GMT 10
In Granville Assoc, we have a couple of local rules. In O35 slide tackles are not permitted, and an IDFK is awarded if a player does a slide. Normally a slide tackle is not a foul, however since it was O35, it becomes a foul. According to my colleagues, I could have sent off the defender since IDFK in a DOGSO situation is a send off. Which begs the question - other than this O35 local rule, can anyone think of an IDFK situation that leads to a dismissal due to DOGSO? E.g. let's say an attacker only has a goalie to defeat, the goalie yells as attacker is about to shoot, puts off the attacker who misses. Do you dismiss the goalie under the DOGSO rule?
BTW the other local rule in Granville is that players are allowed to wear wedding band style jewellery, and don't have to tape it.
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Post by evo5 on Jun 24, 2010 21:36:57 GMT 10
Oldref sent a a player two or three years ago for an IDFK offence. If memory serves, and it may not, it was impeding.
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Post by rhythmlynx on Jul 12, 2010 9:57:44 GMT 10
Very odd local rules and contrary to FIFA's LOTG. The jewellery aspect seems to also contravene FNSW State Circular dated 22/04/08 whereby it specifically points out under sub-heading "Rings" that "Taping or otherwise covering rings will not be permitted under any circumstances"
The entire FNSW Circular issued by the State Referee's Coach is reproduced hereunder;
FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION AND IMPLEMENTATION This policy, in its entirety, is to be strictly adhered to and enforced by ALL match officials controlling matches played under the auspices of Football NSW regardless of the grade or level of competition they are officiating. Introduction: Despite Law 4 being quite specific about the wearing of jewellery, it is obvious that there are still a number of match officials who either do not understand the requirements or choose to ignore them. In order to gain greater consistency the following is a summary of the requirements when applying Law 4. Law4: This Law states that: * Nothing dangerous is to be worn. * No jewellery is to be worn. These directions are also restated in the ¡¥Additional Instructions to Referees¡¦ section of the Law Book. These two statements are related, but not dependent upon each other. The Law is quite specific, however, about no jewellery being worn. Instructions to Match Officials The following is now National Policy, and became effective 1 January 2006. Earrings: * No form of earrings or studs are acceptable * The practice of taping earrings/studs or piercings is unacceptable REFEREES CIRCULAR Date Issue 22/04/08 ISSUED BY THE NSW STATE REFEREE¡¦S COACH FOOTBALL NSW LIMITED A.B.N. 25 003 215 923 Facial Rings/Piercings: * Any kind of jewellery around the eyes must be removed * Jewellery in any other part of the face must also be removed * The practice of taping facial rings or piercings is unacceptable Necklaces: * All necklaces including metal, rope, fabric, or such other material must be removed. * Medical alert necklaces only may be worn but they must be taped securely to the chest. Bracelets: * All bracelets including metal, rope, fabric, or other such material must be removed. * Medical alert bracelets only may be worn but must be taped securely to the wrist. Body Piercing: Any piercing not visible to the referee is not of concern. Should the piercing become visible then the referee will require that the player remove it before being permitted to enter or re enter the field of play. Rings: * All rings must be removed * This includes flat wedding rings * Taping or otherwise covering rings will not permitted under any circumstances Watches: * Players must remove all watches. Match officials are excluded from this directive as a watch is a necessary part of the referee¡¦s equipment. Beaded Hair: * If a player is wearing hair beads the hair must be tied in a bun or covered by a hair net * Loose beaded hair will not be permitted Hair Clips: * Any hard rigid hair anchor e.g.: Metal or plastic hair clips, bobby pins, headbands, etc are not permitted. The use of fabric or elastic type hair restraints will be permitted providing they do not constitute a danger to either the player or an opponent
FOOTBALL NSW LIMITED A.B.N. 25 003 215 923 Spectacles: * Refer to the ¡¥Additional Instructions for Referees¡¦ section of Law Book for National Policy. * This instruction is fairly open ended and allows for the referee to make a final decision. * This is offered as a guide to members of the St. George Football Referees Association Inc. when attempting to make a determination as to whether a player¡¦s spectacles are safe or not. * Basically the risk is assessed as the frames of the spectacles and not the lenses themselves * Spectacles consisting of metal frames should be considered unsuitable and not permitted to be worn. * Spectacles made of flexible plastic or other similar material such as ¡¥sports spectacles¡¦ would be acceptable. Casts/Splints: Casts, splints, joint or limb supports will not be permitted regardless of the material they are manufactured from. * Padding, bandaging or otherwise disguising of casts etc. is also not permitted. * Players will be permitted to wear elastic type muscle supports providing they are close fitting and in the opinion of the referee do not constitute a danger. * Referees should be vigilant when inspecting such equipment that players are not concealing such apparatus under medical bandaging etc. Referees: * In keeping within the spirit of these guidelines, referees are required to conform to the identical standards set for the players, with the exception of the need to wear watches * Referees need to be diligent in carrying out these instructions and be aware of players trying to circumvent the policy * Players who are found to have breached the jewellery policy are to asked to rectify the problem prior to the commencement of the game or are to be asked to leave the field at the next stoppage in play. Where a player has disregarded an instruction from a match official to remove an article of jewellery that player is to be cautioned and shown the yellow card * The game is not to be delayed in any way whilst a player corrects their equipment/jewellery
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Post by fairplay on Jul 15, 2010 13:21:29 GMT 10
I was at the last (or maybe the one before) Granville GM where it was mentioned that Granville by-laws allow flat wedding rings. This was a first to me so i had to go and check but i can not find it anywhere in the by-laws. So although I'll be asking it at the next GM as far as i know this is not a local rule.
I have seen many of our referees allowing not only flat wedding rings but also any other jewelry they deem not dangerous despite the clear FIFA guidelines. It just makes it harder for the rest of us when asking to remove jewelry.
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